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Looks like the "conspiracy theories" really were true after all...
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s***@gmail.com
2007-10-07 11:31:29 UTC
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Most people don't know that were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall rate?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
t***@optonline.net
2007-10-07 13:46:31 UTC
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Post by s***@gmail.com
Most people don't know that were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.
The third building, WTC 7, can be seen herehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall rate?
If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!
How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.
This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Proposition 3:

You're an unqualified imbecile that has zero credentials in building
demolition or building failure analysis. Suppose a random person
with no qualifications took some pictures of an airplane crash site
and then claimed there was some big conspiracy and the NTSB expert
investigation and conclusion into the cause was wrong. Should they
be believed?

In the the case of the two WTC towers the conspiracy kooks claim that
it's impossible for steel buildings to have been brought down by fires
that burned for only a couple hours. Now, you have WTC 7 collapse
after being hit with tons of debris from the earlier WTC collapse and
then burning for about 9 hours, and that collapse is not right
either. And along the way, they conveniently forget that WTC 7 had
40,000 gallons of diesel fuel in it's lower levels for backup power
generators.

Instead, we're supposed to believe that somehow WTC7 was brought down
by demolition. Hmmm. Who went into the burning buildings to place
the charges? Or were they supposidly placed there before hand? And
if so, how could anyone insure that the explosives and cord would
remain intact after 2 planes hit the adjacent buildings? Would it
not have been entirely possible for say debris from one of the WTC
towers to have crushed WTC 7 so that the demo charges could not have
been set off 9 hours later, leaving explosives there when the
buildings were dug out? Why, with the building on fire, would
anyone wait 9 hours to set it off, when the fire could be destroying
the whole settup and detonation linkage? In short, this whole
nonsense is pretty stupid.

And what I'd like to hear from the conspiracy proponents is an
explanation of this whole day from start to finish. Not one little
video "I don't think a building should collapse that way!
Conspiracy!" Tell us start to finish exactly what happened and how
it was all done. Get together with your friends, who claim the planes
that hit WTC were military planes, not AA jets. Make sure you have
that and all the other wild claims included and fully explained your
nice complete package and then get back to us on the whole story,
OK? The official investigation met that standard of completeness and
the conclusions make sense beyond a reasonable doubt.
David E. Powell
2007-10-07 14:59:52 UTC
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Post by s***@gmail.com
Most people don't know that were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.
The third building, WTC 7, can be seen herehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall rate?
If it weakens the steel until it gives way, and weight piles on weight
from the different floors and components as they fall in on each
other, yes it can. Any first year physics student (at the High School
level) should know that.
Post by s***@gmail.com
If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!
Compare the expense of a professional demolition's small amount of
explosives vs. the cost of all that fuel sometime sparky.
WindsorFox
2007-10-07 17:10:55 UTC
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Post by s***@gmail.com
Most people don't know that were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.
And by posting this gobbledy gook you are just another doof with a
conspiricy theory that is full of holes. By cross posting it to 5
different, unrelated groups, none of which have anything to do with the
subject matter, you become and abusive, trolling net-ko0k that no sane
person would offer the time of day to.
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KRJ
2007-10-07 21:19:14 UTC
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Damn...another loose screw
Post by s***@gmail.com
Most people don't know that were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.
The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall rate?
If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!
How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.
This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
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